in your comments earlier today you advised closing shorts tomorrow if the close was above 5338 on a closing basis tomorrow......or should we close shorts if it closes above 5338 today itself?
For a person who trades by TT, intra longs would have been generated @ 5274(DLEma)+20 points filter.
For a person who trades by google 5-min intra chart, move above 34Ema @ 5270 would have been a long trade.
Sometimes waiting for the close, one would lose many points. And at times, initiating a reverse trade would require 20 points SAR in managing the new trade.
Some JNSAR traders would be in a dilemma that Nifty has come to tomorrow's JNSAR-5352.
These are all decisions, individual trader has to take.
Nifty is at a crucial juncture - whether the corrections is over or is this rise part of the correction.
Safest way would be a close above DHEma for the return of momentum.
@Anil To get the concept clear what would be the SD for tomorrows JNSAR for entry taken today?(I am long since 5266 day before yesterday and part booked@5282 simply asking to understand)
at crucial juncture now. It has to climb all the above to turn into bullish mode. Surpassing and closing above all these valid numbers will show good +ve days but if fails back to PT's den with more peace of mind.
i had not experimented with JNSAR,but if u r positional trader aiming for 100-200 pts..ideal will be days low ema...on the day SAR triggered..else any MA which u loved, like sirs.. 34 MA on 5 min..etc..or 20 points whichever is greater...
I don’t know which system you follow and I respect your stop loss. But, if I were in your position I would have raised my SL by another 20 points just above jnsar and dhema(since it’s only about squaring and not reversing).I feel that’s worthy.
There are always numerous TA numbers available in front of us. Success lies in which number you select at different situations. After such a steep run, price would give respect to such important TA numbers.
When you choose any SAR number, they are bound to get whipsawed, some often and some on fewer occasions.
Having chosen a SAR number that whipsaws on fewer occasions, one need to study "how many points are whipsawed on those occasions" and this deviation plus a small extra margin for future volatility from the SAR is "Filter".
For Nifty, we found 20 points to be reasonable.
For stocks of your choice, you may need to study the historical data and arrive at the same.
I could provide the "Protected JNSAR for stocks file", if you need it.
If the sar number is saved by few points (1-5 points in nifty), mostly the reversal takes place in the next day. If you all have old data, check your sheets.
This is again a observation and not a thumb rule. Don’t initiate a trade based on this now but keep watch on this observation.
Today’s close is surely not the “biggies closing tactics”. Look at the way it carried away from low, standing firm at decider levels and closing at day’s high.
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68 comments:
@Ilango
in your comments earlier today you advised closing shorts tomorrow if the close was above 5338 on a closing basis tomorrow......or should we close shorts if it closes above 5338 today itself?
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@Anil sir,
Tomorrows Jnsar trigar,
its time to todays jnsar.
Equinox effect! :D
@ Indus,
For a person who trades by TT, intra longs would have been generated @ 5274(DLEma)+20 points filter.
For a person who trades by google 5-min intra chart, move above 34Ema @ 5270 would have been a long trade.
Sometimes waiting for the close, one would lose many points. And at times, initiating a reverse trade would require 20 points SAR in managing the new trade.
Some JNSAR traders would be in a dilemma that Nifty has come to tomorrow's JNSAR-5352.
These are all decisions, individual trader has to take.
Nifty is at a crucial juncture - whether the corrections is over or is this rise part of the correction.
Safest way would be a close above DHEma for the return of momentum.
DR,
seems you have ordered lamp post instead of tube light.
@Nilesh
thanks..ok...plz no sir..sharminda mat karo yaar...
@Anil
To get the concept clear what would be the SD for tomorrows JNSAR for entry taken today?(I am long since 5266 day before yesterday and part booked@5282 simply asking to understand)
@Bhavan
what is SD..??
ssssorry @anil typo error read as SL
nanjil
Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
7DMA - 5355
Jnsar-5368
Dhema-5371
weekly h3-5371
weekly pivot-5374
at crucial juncture now. It has to climb all the above to turn into bullish mode. Surpassing and closing above all these valid numbers will show good +ve days but if fails back to PT's den with more peace of mind.
@Bhavan
i had not experimented with JNSAR,but if u r positional trader aiming for 100-200 pts..ideal will be days low ema...on the day SAR triggered..else any MA which u loved, like sirs.. 34 MA on 5 min..etc..or 20 points whichever is greater...
OK thanks Anil and I am a positional trader by ALL means (depending upon my home position also)
@Nanjil,
Above 5349 SPOT So Closed my shorts .... But will not Buy :(
50 HMA - 5361...
@Nanjil,
But yes Near Todays JNSAR we can short with a 20 pts SL
Ilango sir, now sud i take 5352-20 to enter shorts again??
PT
Yes many times that strategy has worked for quick intraday profits.
bizagra
why this kolaveri?
if long at 5352 then back to short at 5332
if long at 5368 then back to short at 5348
KISS
PT,
I don’t know which system you follow and I respect your stop loss. But, if I were in your position I would have raised my SL by another 20 points just above jnsar and dhema(since it’s only about squaring and not reversing).I feel that’s worthy.
There are always numerous TA numbers available in front of us. Success lies in which number you select at different situations. After such a steep run, price would give respect to such important TA numbers.
@Cooldent thx...afraid :):)
@ bizagra,
That is how you manage a JNSAR trade..
Why this doubt after so many trades...?
dar ke aage jeet
Ohhh..
Cooldent has cooled him already..!!
@ PT,
Midpoint crisis comes at 3.30PM & 10.00AM tomorrow.
"5366"-Month open plays a role...DR's strategy.
@Sir
Where do you refresh stock levels I want to know about TATASTEEL and TATAMOTORS BHEL Resistances
As it was anticipated, market laid a very good bear trap. and now staughtering them.
Missing Sujatha mam.
I bow on the feet of Master Ilango, just taught me how to trade and overall control emotions.
Regards
:)
A wild tgt
few months back
every body was guessing
Gold or SENSEX what will cross 18K
if this time SENSEX crosses 18K
it has the power of 200SMA
Mind it!!!!!!!!
Ranji may go long this time
sir ji,
how can v judge the filters for stocks
like e.g ns has 20 points filter.
pl advice
thanks
@ Bhavan,
STockfiles need to be updated during the week by individuals.
File links are in this blog's top right hand corner.(Only 6 stock files)
will weekly pivot conqered...todays 5 DEMA seems to be...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/niftypivot.png/
what are elliot wave counts? is it unreliable? is c pending or vanished?
anil ji,
weekly pivot is @ 5374
OK Thanks Sir
@suresh
yes.. whats wrong..??
@ Suresh,
What is this filter & why is it needed?
When you choose any SAR number, they are bound to get whipsawed, some often and some on fewer occasions.
Having chosen a SAR number that whipsaws on fewer occasions, one need to study "how many points are whipsawed on those occasions" and this deviation plus a small extra margin for future volatility from the SAR is "Filter".
For Nifty, we found 20 points to be reasonable.
For stocks of your choice, you may need to study the historical data and arrive at the same.
I could provide the "Protected JNSAR for stocks file", if you need it.
@Ilango Sir,
Thanks a Lot ..
BN still below tomorrow JNSAR
last 30min...wish 30points more 5380ns
chhoti si aasha
IT index probably making handle of C &H pattern,nifty
and bank nifty may follow it tomm
If the sar number is saved by few points (1-5 points in nifty), mostly the reversal takes place in the next day. If you all have old data, check your sheets.
This is again a observation and not a thumb rule. Don’t initiate a trade based on this now but keep watch on this observation.
3.00PM TT & Chart updated.
Nifty achieved 50% retrace @ 5366(almost @ 5364).
@stock4sure
Milega Milega, sub ko milega. "famous dialogue from film China Town"
:)
@stocksure
5380 pe toh bears dum tod dege agar sustain kar gaya...
Disclaimer: no position
ek baar Master ka figure 5366 cross ho jaye. wahi pe ruka hai.
reliance and hindalco may lead tomm
5358...8 pts done in 6min
22more...
This hour closed above D-EMA & W-EMA coming from below D-LEMA. Daily 9-RSI has tackled mid-point crisis quite successfully. Daily 5-D triggered buy. Hour 35-D,Slow MACD, KST remains in buy mode. It clearly goes with the triggered JNSAR long. At peace. :)
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close above day hi ema at 5368..looking possible now
17 pts done in 9min
sacchi never thought aaj ka JNSAR hit hoga in all wildest dream Sujaaaaaaaaaaaa good u r pushing nifty
DJNSAR triggered
if ns close abv 5368
is thr possibility of strong gap up near 5410
Sujatha Mam, doing Puja as DR sir said.
she was expecting trigger yesterday irself.
@DR
got TT msg...restarting server....
and now charts gone haywire....HELP...
Stocks4sure ...
Still what is needed is a sustianed move above JNSAR ... More over a Trigger at the closing Hours... Professionals know the Closing Techniques
Thoda Short to Banta hain
Closing above 5353 (or 5348)?
Booked part profit. (Bought at 5275 when nifty crossed 200 DMA on 5 minute charts.)
close is going to be at decider levels to leave everyone to watch uncle sam tonight with head scratching!
Taking Contra Trade in shorts Owing to the cooling off in the European Markets ...
Will Evaluate tomorrow only :)
Anil
they r updating
dont worry it wont take much time
hardly 2-3 mints
Excellent turnover
cash - 12570 cr
f&O - 142187 cr
lagta hain 5400 NF todke hi rahega...
closing above tomorrow's JNSAR warrant for taking LONG position over for next day ....
@PT sir..aaj ka ulta kal:)...though i m not taking any position..will see tomm.
Today’s close is surely not the “biggies closing tactics”. Look at the way it carried away from low, standing firm at decider levels and closing at day’s high.
Bye Sir and all blog mates
In TT, week is being shown as 22nd, not 23rd. Is cash/F&O closed on Friday? Currency is closed I know.
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